{"id":5833,"date":"2025-05-09T21:08:22","date_gmt":"2025-05-09T20:08:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/backup.act.stringerhj.co.uk\/oldsite\/?p=5833"},"modified":"2025-05-31T13:44:13","modified_gmt":"2025-05-31T12:44:13","slug":"energy-group-meeting-notes-08-05-2025","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/backup.act.stringerhj.co.uk\/oldsite\/index.php\/2025\/05\/09\/energy-group-meeting-notes-08-05-2025\/","title":{"rendered":"Energy group meeting notes (08.05.2025)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Leaking flat roofs, too cold and too hot.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Centre for Sustainable Energy\u2019s study of variable tariffs.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Spain\u2019s power outage.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Wind and solar farms.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Unless anyone would like to suggest another venue in Teignbridge, the next in-person meeting will be at the Taphouse in Newton Abbot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Flat roofs are notorious for leaking, but they can also be a problem to insulate. If you live under a flat roof with inadequate insulation, you are likely to lose heat in winter and overheat in summer. So what\u2019s the solution?<br>Unfortunately retrofitting insulation in a flat roof isn\u2019t as easy as adding traditional loft insulation between and above ceiling joists in the loft space of pitched roofs (also referred to as a cold roof insulation because the loft space remains cold). Flat roofs typically do not have easily accessible space between ceiling and roofing material (often the finish is roofing felt). So to gain access, either the ceiling or the roof covering have to be removed to add insulation.<br>If there is a leak and the felt or outer roofing material has to be repaired\/replaced, this is an opportunity to add insulation. Ideally above the rafters or a combination of this and between rafters. Insulation above rafters is sometimes referred to as \u2018cold roof\u2019 insulation, but the term is misleading when applied to flat roofs. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jjroofingsupplies.co.uk\/blog\/warm-roof-vs-cold-roof-whats-the-difference\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Here<\/a> is a useful explanation.<br>There are also better roofing materials than felt, but these tend to be more expensive and require skilled installation, something the UK building trade is not famed for!<br>Drawing curtains to keep the sunshine out in summer and in winter to keep the warm air in helps a lot. Opening windows if there is a marked temperature difference between inside an outside temperatures, this can cool\/warm the room as needed.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The CSE provides very good research and advice to achieve <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cse.org.uk\/about-us\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">its mission<\/a>. The recent webinar was billed to cover \u201cThe transition to a smart, low-carbon future\u201d and how it \u201cis transforming how consumers interact with the energy system\u201d. You can watch it <a href=\"https:\/\/centreforsustainableenergy-my.sharepoint.com\/personal\/nick_stromberg_cse_org_uk\/_layouts\/15\/stream.aspx?id=%2Fpersonal%2Fnick%5Fstromberg%5Fcse%5Forg%5Fuk%2FDocuments%2FRecordings%2FSmart%20energy%20market%20review%20webinar%20%5F2%2D20250428%5F121626%2DMeeting%20Recording%2Emp4&amp;ct=1746814018130&amp;or=Outlook%2DBody&amp;cid=8664E32A%2DFCB5%2D4FAA%2DBF91%2D748213D8CD68&amp;ga=1&amp;referrer=StreamWebApp%2EWeb&amp;referrerScenario=AddressBarCopied%2Eview%2Edfcc03ef%2D5101%2D4130%2Da731%2D059f20ba2fc1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>.<br>Two ACT energy group members had attended. It was strange that the webinar did not mention carbon emissions at all, focusing instead on financial benefits from these tariffs. You can watch the study\u2019s conclusions, which are not surprising given that these \u2018smart\u2019 tariffs are aimed at those who want\/can engage in how\/when they use their electricity.<br>As we\u2019ve discussed on several occasions in the past, including <a href=\"https:\/\/actionclimateteignbridge.org\/newsite\/page.php\/post\/energy-group-meeting-notes-10-04-2025\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">last month\u2019s meeting<\/a>, There is a big mismatch between low-carbon claims associated with low-tariffs. The question was raised and answered by the CSE team at the end of the webinar if you want to take a look. Let\u2019s hope they check out the information we gave them in the Q&amp;A and include this information in future.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Several sources were quick to blame the major electricity grid outage in Spain, parts of France and Portugal on renewables. While it is true that most of Spain\u2019s daytime generation at the time was renewables, this is not an unusual situation. It is not yet clear what triggered the cascading shutdown, related to frequency fluctuations which cause automatic shutdown of all generator types. \u00a0No doubt not enough contingency planning had been made to prevent major and multiple failures from taking down the whole electricity grid. <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/spain-portugal-blackouts-what-actually-happened-and-what-can-iberia-and-europe-learn-from-it-255666\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Here<\/a> is a good summary from a week ago.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>We discussed the recent news that the largest offshore wind farm developer is pulling out. This is the second large wind farm development to run into trouble because of escalating costs, in turn caused by the multiple international events in recent years. Read the company\u2019s statement on this <a href=\"https:\/\/orsted.com\/en\/company-announcement-list\/2025\/05\/orsted-to-discontinue-the-hornsea-4-offshore-wind--143901911\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a> and the broader picture <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/ce848g8l8vro\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>. The first of these is back on track, so presumably the government will either have to adjust the Contract for Difference (CfD) arrangements or find another developer.<br>This led us onto discussing onshore wind and solar farms and the relative merits\/problems with each. ACT has published its position on this as part of our submission to the Local Plan. In this we favour wind development over solar farms, mainly because of the significant land-efficiency of the former.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Written by Fuad<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Energy group coordinator<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"mailto:fuad@actionclimateteignbridge.org\">fuad@actionclimateteignbridge.org<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1-Leaking flat roofs, too cold and too hot.<br \/>\n2- Centre for Sustainable Energy\u2019s study of variable tariffs.<br \/>\n3- Spain\u2019s power outage.<br \/>\n4- Wind and solar farms.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":85,"featured_media":5832,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[56,61],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5833","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-build-environment","category-transport"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.8 - 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